Comments on: Reminder: Huntsville Tea Party on Wednesday http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/ Politics. Alabama Style. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:08:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: David Shockey http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-61056 David Shockey Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:41:47 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-61056 Jeff, You owe me $5... <a href="http://blog.al.com/breaking/2009/04/huntsvilles_tax_day_tea_party.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.al.com/breaking/2009/04/huntsvilles_tax_day_tea_party.html</a> Jeff,
You owe me $5…

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2009/04/huntsvilles_tax_day_tea_party.html

]]> By: jordan http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60890 jordan Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:39:56 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60890 What was probably the icing on the cake for the tea parties was when Rick Perry, Texas' governor stated that Texas can secede from the union. That will draw a lot of attention but more importantly it sends the message that these movements are serious for such strong words to be used. While the media will say they Texas does not have the right to do this outright (there are some court cases which agree, there are certain paths they can take to get this goal). While they do not have the right to do this outright, there are certain paths they can take to get this goal. Come on, you know this is possible because this is the same country which gives exceptions to tax cheats through cleaver legal  maneuvers. Really it is just using the legal system creatively. Texas probably has the best chance at success. Here is just one way how it can work. The annexation agreement made when Texas joined the union provided that Texas would be able to divide into 5 states. This would create 8 more conservative Senators. If Texas were to try to divide and be rebuffed, the US would be in violation of the agreement and Texas should be able to go free. It is not all that far fetched.  Regardless of the TX situation, the movement was larger than expected. And it is just a start because the thing about grass roots is that it will only take hold, grow and spread. Some pics here: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/texasmayleave" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/texasmayleave</a> What was probably the icing on the cake for the tea parties was when Rick Perry, Texas’ governor stated that Texas can secede from the union. That will draw a lot of attention but more importantly it sends the message that these movements are serious for such strong words to be used. While the media will say they Texas does not have the right to do this outright (there are some court cases which agree, there are certain paths they can take to get this goal).

While they do not have the right to do this outright, there are certain paths they can take to get this goal. Come on, you know this is possible because this is the same country which gives exceptions to tax cheats through cleaver legal 
maneuvers.

Really it is just using the legal system creatively.

Texas probably has the best chance at success. Here is just one way how it can work. The annexation agreement made when Texas joined the union provided that Texas would be able to divide into 5 states. This would create 8 more conservative Senators.

If Texas were to try to divide and be rebuffed, the US would be in violation of the agreement and Texas should be able to go free.

It is not all that far fetched. 

Regardless of the TX situation, the movement was larger than expected. And it is just a start because the thing about grass roots is that it will only take hold, grow and spread.

Some pics here:

http://tinyurl.com/texasmayleave

]]> By: Alabama Moderate http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60847 Alabama Moderate Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:05:07 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60847 Hope it went well, and I hope none of the nutters showed up to spoil it for you.  As much as I've giggled over "teabagging" lately, I think everyone's entitled to their own outlets, and there's nothing like a nutjob who'll jump at any opportunity to scream "fire" to completely devalue any point you're trying to make.  Here's to hoping you got yours across effectively. On a similar note, I noticed that some of the local Libertarians were outright furious over what they consider to be some on the far-right hijacking their tea parties, as they were protesting <em>both parties</em> beng out of control-- something I can <strong>very much</strong> understand and respect. Hope it went well, and I hope none of the nutters showed up to spoil it for you.  As much as I’ve giggled over “teabagging” lately, I think everyone’s entitled to their own outlets, and there’s nothing like a nutjob who’ll jump at any opportunity to scream “fire” to completely devalue any point you’re trying to make.  Here’s to hoping you got yours across effectively.

On a similar note, I noticed that some of the local Libertarians were outright furious over what they consider to be some on the far-right hijacking their tea parties, as they were protesting both parties beng out of control– something I can very much understand and respect.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60754 Jonathan Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:51:15 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60754 That being said - We The People pretty well proved your point already. That being said – We The People pretty well proved your point already.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60753 Jonathan Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:50:19 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60753 One compelling argument - could you imagine the ramifications of that discovery?  Rocking the world and potentially destroying it - two different goals.  Also, the short-term gain would most likely be offset by long-term blackballing.  Are you suggesting the media would never ignore a potential scandal? Now, give me one compelling argument for the question not being settled once and for all with the release of the birth certificate (to neutral third party). Let me make clear - if the birth certificate were to be released, I would fully expect to discover <strong>he is</strong> <strong>a natural born citizen</strong>.  However, why not just release it and be done with it - there would still be some who don't believe it, but you would take any credible argument away. Precedent was set for that level of public vetting on the issue during McCain's original run in 2000, so (regardless of whether I think the claim is true) I don't think it an unreasonable request. One compelling argument – could you imagine the ramifications of that discovery?  Rocking the world and potentially destroying it – two different goals.  Also, the short-term gain would most likely be offset by long-term blackballing.  Are you suggesting the media would never ignore a potential scandal?

Now, give me one compelling argument for the question not being settled once and for all with the release of the birth certificate (to neutral third party).

Let me make clear – if the birth certificate were to be released, I would fully expect to discover he is a natural born citizen.  However, why not just release it and be done with it - there would still be some who don’t believe it, but you would take any credible argument away.

Precedent was set for that level of public vetting on the issue during McCain’s original run in 2000, so (regardless of whether I think the claim is true) I don’t think it an unreasonable request.

]]> By: Brian http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60748 Brian Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:51:25 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60748 Give me one compelling reason why any legitimate news outlet - be it Fox News or the NY Times - would sit on <strong><em>evidence</em></strong> that the POTUS is not a legal US citizen.  Scandal sells and that story would rock the world.  Like it or not, Obama is an American born citizen. "We The People"  - needlessly interjecting race into the discussion does you no favors.  Especially when your assessment of the individual's race you are referring to is incorrect. Give me one compelling reason why any legitimate news outlet – be it Fox News or the NY Times – would sit on evidence that the POTUS is not a legal US citizen.  Scandal sells and that story would rock the world.  Like it or not, Obama is an American born citizen.

“We The People”  – needlessly interjecting race into the discussion does you no favors.  Especially when your assessment of the individual’s race you are referring to is incorrect.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60747 Jonathan Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:27:10 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60747 We The People - my question was why those people are included in the list of nuts who attend protests; however, you have adequately answered for him.  Thank you. I'm sure everyone who knows me is quite amused by your description.  You may be surprised to know I am, in fact, functionally literate and have read the US Constitution on multiple occassions.  We The People – my question was why those people are included in the list of nuts who attend protests; however, you have adequately answered for him.  Thank you.

I’m sure everyone who knows me is quite amused by your description.  You may be surprised to know I am, in fact, functionally literate and have read the US Constitution on multiple occassions. 

]]> By: We The People http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60729 We The People Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:36:02 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60729 Jonathon,  reading is fundamental and I dare say any of bloggers of these infantile points of view above  have actually read the US Constitution.  But just in case -- your pigment is blockading your brain waves (or maybe your wannabe pigment....)  try listening to one of your own... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg</a> Our fight is “We the People and the US Constitution” .vs. “The Audacity of HOPE (& LIES)”.  See the URL posted above to see Alan Keyes perspective on life in America today. A Must See for anyone on the right who I dare say DONT bother to visit here very often .....    Jonathon,  reading is fundamental and I dare say any of bloggers of these infantile points of view above  have actually read the US Constitution.  But just in case — your pigment is blockading your brain waves (or maybe your wannabe pigment….)  try listening to one of your own…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg
Our fight is “We the People and the US Constitution” .vs. “The Audacity of HOPE (& LIES)”.  See the URL posted above to see Alan Keyes perspective on life in America today. A Must See for anyone on the right who I dare say DONT bother to visit here very often …..   

]]> By: walt moffett http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60718 walt moffett Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:55:01 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60718 Suspect you'll also see mention of "camouflage uniforms", the whitebread nature of the crowd and the presence of veterans. And its just not tax and spend in DC that needs worrying about. Suspect you’ll also see mention of “camouflage uniforms”, the whitebread nature of the crowd and the presence of veterans.

And its just not tax and spend in DC that needs worrying about.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.flashpointblog.com/2009/04/14/reminder-huntsville-tea-party-on-wednesday/comment-page-1/#comment-60717 Jonathan Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:54:46 +0000 http://www.flashpointblog.com/?p=3552#comment-60717 "So, if you think Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen..." Just for the sake of argument - explain “So, if you think Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen…”

Just for the sake of argument – explain

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