Additional thoughts on “decentralizing poverty” in Huntsville
I have been out of town the last week (stimulating the economy in Las Vegas on both business and pleasure – more on that later) and have missed much of the, uhh, excitement surrounding the Huntsville Housing Authority story. Fortunately Jay (aka Reactionary) and others, including my lovely wife, filled me in on this past Monday’s meeting. Jay did a bang up job summarizing the roughly four hour meeting in a series of posts.
I was afforded a good bit of time to reflect on the situation while in Sin City. On my way back on Sunday I was able to read an excellent article in the Huntsville Times by Challen Stevens as well as a less than stellar editorial by Kevin Wendt.
The thought I couldn’t escape is that the HHA moving a project into a middle class subdivision symbolizes the degradation of what was once a merit based society into a “shared misery” mishmash. Hard working people who made sound choices to stay out of trouble, get an education, and work hard are finding the fruits of their considerable labors spoiled by their own government. Tax dollars are taken from the productive and not only transferred to the welfare class, but used to compromise the very lifestyle that the prudent worked so hard to achieve. At its core this is what has people so upset I believe.
Stevens’ article reinforces the concerns of Huntsville citizens about the wisdom of the HHA’s “decentralizing poverty” push:
Cities across the country began two decades ago to bulldoze clusters of public housing and place residents in mixed-income neighborhoods to encourage self-sufficiency. But results have been mixed, and researchers say there’s not a lot of evidence of increased self-sufficiency among the former tenants.
For some reason people like the HHA’s Michael Lundy and others cling tightly to the notion that “decentralizing poverty” is a utopian dream despite a lack of supporting evidence.
The article also included comments from a couple of public housing dependents that I found a bit interesting:
“I don’t have a car as it is now. I’ll be having to get rides,” said 25-year-old Ashely Varise, who found her way from New Orleans to Councill Courts after Katrina. “They can move me anywhere else, but not South Parkway.”
“I don’t want to go down there. I am one individual. I live alone. No transportation,” said an elderly resident of more than 30 years, who asked that her name be withheld. “That’s too far for me. My doctors are right here in my grasp.”
Now haven’t we been told that the residents moving to Stone Manor have cars? This is an extremely important point. If the HHA unilaterally disperses residents with no means of transportation all across the city how will they get to their far flung jobs and services? If they don’t have cars then the city will ultimately be forced to expand bus routes. That isn’t free. Not only is there the direct cost in the form of higher taxes and fees, but there will also be the burden of sharing our roads – both major and minor – with more lumbering buses. The city and HHA must coordinate further moves to avoid sudden demand for costly public transportation. (Although I suspect the HHA folks would like to be a forcing function for more public transportation.)
I must also take issue with the comments of one HHA resident in Stephens’ piece:
At Councill Courts one older resident, who didn’t want to be identified, said it used to rain inside her heatless apartment before she found government housing.
She looked at it this way: “There are a lot of people who have good jobs. I’m just not one of them.”
“I’m just not one of them.” A hidden excuse curiously phrased as if to indicate that those who do have good jobs just lucked into them. No planning, no hard work, no education. The good job just fell out of the sky and randomly hit them on the head. Going back to an earlier theme, we live (or used to) in a merit based society. If you find yourself with an undesirable lot in life then one person bears the bulk of the blame. Wendt casually echoed this mindset in his editorial referring to the HHA residents as the “less fortunate” – a pet peeve of mine. I wonder if Wendt views his own achievement – the editor at a decent size newspaper – as a mere matter of fortune? Was he just beebopping down the road and the job fairy offered him this position? Or, as I suspect, did he work hard to get to where he is? On average we all end up where we deserve to be – fortune just introduces some variance around the mean.
I do find Wendt’s mocking tone toward Mo Brooks to be a bit ironic.
Sadly, County Commissioner Mo Brooks’ grandstanding was to be expected. This is the same guy who suggested south Huntsville secede.
I’m not going to argue Wendt’s point that Brooks enjoys the occasional grandstanding. I typically agree with his positions, though. However, while Wendt chides Brooks for once wanting to split off south Huntsville I wonder how many south Huntsville residents are currently wishing on some level that was the case. Then we wouldn’t be facing a likely onslaught of federally subsidized residents. Oh yeah, they’re coming. It’s in their plan.
From Section 7.0 in the HHA’s “5 Year and Annual Plan:”
Additionally, HHA would like to guarantee affordability of housing in other areas of Southeast Huntsville so that residents may benefit from high-performing schools and other quality of life factors.
This reinforces yet another concern of Huntsville residents: that school performance will suffer. One of the reasons the HHA wants to move into Southeast Huntsville is to take advantage of what are currently “high-performing” schools. That implicitly means they will be leaving less than “high-performing” schools. Here’s a rhetorical question. Do you think the schools currently attended by the HHA students are substandard because of or despite them?
Now is a good time to tackle the oft used “affordable housing” phrase the HHA folks like to toss around. I would like Michael Lundy or anyone else to explain to me how government intervention into the housing market through wealth transfer subsidies makes housing more affordable in a macroeconomic sense. Anytime the government heavily subsidizes anything overall costs go up. Take a look at college education or health care for prime examples.
While I doubt that the toothpaste can be squeezed back in the tube as far as Stone Manor is concerned I do feel that public sentiment will force a change in the long term plans of the HHA provided the interest does not wane considerably.
Brian, you make some great points. This is one of the places where we encounter basic differences in worldview with liberals. Many of them view capitalism as one big game of chance. I don’t know how they see it that way, but they do.
great point about the fortune. Did anyone catch the article that said there were already 58 section 8 homes in Chaffee area? Not sure how they defined the area. I think of it as Whitesburg to Byrd Spring though the school district covers English Village and across the parkway, I think.
Concerning your last point “public sentiment will force a change in the long term plans of the HHA provided the interest does not wane considerably” … There’s the rub. People’s interest probably will not wane so much as they will cope. And coping in the past has meant moving out. There’s been little to encourage folks to fight city hall. As Lundy has pointed out, HHA is, in essence, the Fed Govt. Good luck with that.
Perhaps with everything else going on (bailouts, deficits, etc.) people will fight harder to get some common sense or at least true ‘best practices’ for fighting poverty into the system. I dream :)
58 Sec.8 homes? I am afraid SE is ruined – not all because of 58 sec.8 homes and HHA apts but we are getting too many negative publicity. What decent family would want to buy a moderately priced house in SE now? Does anyone know when these people are moving to Stone Manor or wherever for sure? I heard Aug. Moving to Cullman anyone? Our home value is going down – I already lost $25,000.00.
The best way to address the placing of ‘residents in mixed-income neighborhoods to encourage self-sufficiency’ is by way of vouchers. Lets start with a small form of sufficiency and let families research and choose what locations make sense to each of them because of transportation, educational and daily needs. Provide a flat amount based on family size as an example and let the families keep the difference in what they eventually select and what they pay. Lets use this opportunity to teach our families to appreciate the value of decisions. Allow them some choice and and incentives. Who knows some of the families might even select to live near some of the HHA members themselves to learn even more. I also understand that there are several Condos left in the Westin that would also contribute to balancing out the mixed income neighborhoods and we all learn to share. Self sufficiency has the word self in it. Vouchers are a start toward self education and sufficiency and the market place drives efficiency.
Here is the hard truth: As Southeast Huntsville goes, so goes the city. North Huntsville is already ruined. Southeast Huntsville represents the heart of the city’s tax base and is the anchor that keeps everything else together. We all know that SE is filled with older homes that often require fixing up, but it continues to be a popular place to live because of the established neighborhoods, good schools, and proximity to amenities. Start messing up the good schools and the quality of life, and all those middle-class professionals will flee to other areas.
If Southeast starts going downhill, it will take about five minutes for Hampton Cove to secede and for Southwest Huntsville to break off and join Madison. And then Huntsville will be like so many other ruined cities: A blighted has-been circled by affluent satellite communities. Thanks, HHA, for using our tax money to ruin our city.