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	<title>Comments on: How Boeing blew the Air Force tanker contract</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.flashpointblog.com/2008/03/04/how-boeing-blew-the-air-force-tanker-contract/#comment-21574</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, what do you expect Boeing management to say?  The independent, or at least non overtly affiliated, analysts I've read have said NG/EADS's proposal was significantly better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, what do you expect Boeing management to say?  The independent, or at least non overtly affiliated, analysts I&#8217;ve read have said NG/EADS&#8217;s proposal was significantly better.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.flashpointblog.com/2008/03/04/how-boeing-blew-the-air-force-tanker-contract/#comment-21573</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well maybe you ... and many others jump to the conclusion the leaky airforce reports are accurate?
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"Company executives said they had "significant concerns" about the contract decision after an Air Force briefing on the victory by a team made up of Northrop Grumman Corp (NOC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Airbus parent EADS (EAD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research).

These concerns include "evaluation of the bids and the ultimate decision," said Mark McGraw, program manager for Boeing's tanker, based on the company's 767 commercial airliner.

"What is clear now is that reports claiming that the Airbus offering won by a wide margin could not be more inaccurate," he added in a statement.

Chicago-based Boeing said it would take the next few days to evaluate the data presented by the Air Force and will give "serious consideration to filing a protest."

U.S. Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne told a congressional panel on Wednesday that the Northrop-EADS tanker was "clearly a better performer."

Do you really explicitly trust these guys .. on either side?

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well maybe you &#8230; and many others jump to the conclusion the leaky airforce reports are accurate?<br />
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&#8220;Company executives said they had &#8220;significant concerns&#8221; about the contract decision after an Air Force briefing on the victory by a team made up of Northrop Grumman Corp (NOC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Airbus parent EADS (EAD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research).</p>
<p>These concerns include &#8220;evaluation of the bids and the ultimate decision,&#8221; said Mark McGraw, program manager for Boeing&#8217;s tanker, based on the company&#8217;s 767 commercial airliner.</p>
<p>&#8220;What is clear now is that reports claiming that the Airbus offering won by a wide margin could not be more inaccurate,&#8221; he added in a statement.</p>
<p>Chicago-based Boeing said it would take the next few days to evaluate the data presented by the Air Force and will give &#8220;serious consideration to filing a protest.&#8221;</p>
<p>U.S. Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne told a congressional panel on Wednesday that the Northrop-EADS tanker was &#8220;clearly a better performer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you really explicitly trust these guys .. on either side?</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to read "In From the Cold" regularly.  It is a very good, and usually very accurate, blog.  It fell off my regular read list when I changed RSS feed readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to read &#8220;In From the Cold&#8221; regularly.  It is a very good, and usually very accurate, blog.  It fell off my regular read list when I changed RSS feed readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Reactionary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reactionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'In From the Cold' has been following this, provides good insights. He's also got some posts on why the EADS is a superior tanker (most importantly, better fuel off-loading).

[QUOTE]In an election year, with thousands of jobs at stake and all that money on the table, Congressional efforts to scuttle the new tanker contract are inevitable. We can expect endless hearings on the issue, along with legislative amendments and, of course, various earmarks.

After all, if Ted Kennedy can fund a jet engine the Air Force doesn’t want (to the tune of $1 billion), we can easily envision Pat Roberts, Patty Murray, Nancy Pelosi and their friends setting aside money for a “next-generation tanker aircraft,” while working to defund the Northrop-Grumman aircraft. Boeing has already indicated that it can build a larger tanker—based on the 777 airframe—and its Congressional supporters will quickly rally to that cause.[/QUOTE]

http://formerspook.blogspot.com/2008/03/tankers-and-politics.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;In From the Cold&#8217; has been following this, provides good insights. He&#8217;s also got some posts on why the EADS is a superior tanker (most importantly, better fuel off-loading).</p>
<p>[QUOTE]In an election year, with thousands of jobs at stake and all that money on the table, Congressional efforts to scuttle the new tanker contract are inevitable. We can expect endless hearings on the issue, along with legislative amendments and, of course, various earmarks.</p>
<p>After all, if Ted Kennedy can fund a jet engine the Air Force doesn’t want (to the tune of $1 billion), we can easily envision Pat Roberts, Patty Murray, Nancy Pelosi and their friends setting aside money for a “next-generation tanker aircraft,” while working to defund the Northrop-Grumman aircraft. Boeing has already indicated that it can build a larger tanker—based on the 777 airframe—and its Congressional supporters will quickly rally to that cause.[/QUOTE]</p>
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