Comments on the Don Siegelman 60 Minutes report
Posted by BrianI finally was able to watch the “60 Minutes” segment about the prosecution of former Alabama governor Don Siegelman in its entirety online after “technical difficulties” caused me to miss much of it on the boob tube. The segment certainly painted a stark picture, but it had a number of flaws.
CBS gave short shrift to the details about why Siegelman was prosecuted. They made it sound as though Scrushy just gave him a little campaign contribution and that, as the AZ AG put it, Siegelman “never put one penny in his pocket.” Siegelman (allegedly) used the money to pay off a loan that he personally guaranteed (i.e. he would have to pay). I don’t know about you, but if someone pays off a debt that I owe that money might not make it into my pocket, but it might as well have.
As the prosecution put it:
Rather than direct payment from Defendant Scrushy to Defendant Siegelman’s AELF campaign, properly and timely reported under Alabama law, rather even than a payment from Defendant Scrushy to the institution holding the note guaranteed by Defendant Siegelman, or even from Defendant Scrushy to the AEF nominally liable for the note, this transaction was elaborately and coercively laundered through third parties for the express purpose of concealment, it was held for long periods until applied for Defendant Siegelman’s personal benefit as a loan guarantor, and, despite its massive size, it was not reported as campaign related until several months after the criminal investigation in this case had begun and the Alabama Attorney General’s Office had contacted Defendant Siegelman’s office….there was no “campaign contribution” meriting any protection or concern under McCormick.
CBS didn’t mention that Siegelman would have been $500,000 in the hole if Scrushy hadn’t given him the money. CBS also didn’t ask – or at least didn’t air – any explanation about why the money was hidden until well after the prosecution was initiated.
Also, the segment was rather one sided with no one associated with the prosecution nor any political figures fingered by Jill Simpson appearing. It was neither surprising nor compelling to hear Siegelman’s lawyer state that his client was innocent and the victim of a political hit job. Isn’t that what they’re paid to do? I’m not sure what to make of the silence of the other parties tied to the story. Did Riley, Rove, etc. not appear because they have something to hide or simply because Simpson’s allegations are so silly that they don’t merit refutation?
As for Jill Simpson, you can read her original affidavit here. Read it carefully. Look for any mentions of Karl Rove. You’ll find the name Karl (presumably Rove) stated twice in paragraph sixteen. The context was her alleging that someone else talked to him. That’s it.
The affidavit indicates that her involvement in some KKK photographs (which conveniently don’t exist of course) was something of happenstance. She claims she was simply asked – by who she didn’t say – to find out why Bob Riley’s signs were disappearing in north Alabama. She happened to find out, she claims, that an unnamed Jackson County attorney who she says is a Democrat was placing Riley signs in the area of a KKK rally. She claims to have placed a call to Bob Riley’s son and others then low and behold Don Siegelman conceded the election just hours later. Simpson alleges that he did so to prevent public release of these photos.
Aside: I’m still waiting for someone to explain to me why Siegelman, a successful, battle hardened politician, would concede a razor thin election over photos of some lawyer in sparsely populated Jackson County independently trying to associate Riley with the Klan. It makes absolutely no sense.
Simpson didn’t issue the affidavit as an afterthought. She knew the magnitude of what she was doing and even left the state to give her sworn statement. One might think she would be quite meticulous in her details. One would be wrong though.
Note that she didn’t mention being some kind of covert Republican operative tracking Siegelman with the express orders to photograph him cheating on his wife. I don’t think that would have slipped my mind.
Note that Simpson didn’t mention that Karl Rove – Turd Blossom himself – personally gave her orders to do oppo research on Siegelman. If I were giving a sworn statement with the intent of showing that the Siegelman prosecution was politically motivated I think I would have mentioned being contacted directly by the person who, at the time the statement was given, was the Deputy Chief of Staff to the President of the United States of America. It just seems like kind of a big deal.
Furthermore, just why would Rove entrust a lawyer with tailing Siegelman for months to get compromising pictures of him? For being such a smart guy he must be a real idiot. I would have called, I don’t know, a private investigator or someone with actual experience at trying to obtain such evidence. Hell, if Rove had the ability to orchestrate political prosecutions he surely could have had some CIA lackey with an SLR sent down to Alabama to get the job done right.
But remember, Simpson didn’t mention knowing Rove in her affidavit. Now she is claiming that not only did she know him, but that they spoke numerous times. I guess she didn’t think it was important before.
Anyone who objectively follows the trajectory of Simpson’s allegations will find them quite unbelievable for two reasons. One, they are almost wholly unsubstantiated. Two, the story keeps changing. It’s like she’s playing poker and she just keeps upping her bet every time her turn comes up. The clock is ticking on her fifteen minutes, though.
All in all, the segment wasn’t an investigative report as much as it was a regurgitation of claims that have been floating around in the ether for months. It will likely embolden the pro-Siegelman guys and probably stimulate a fair number of calls and emails from Democrats across the country to their Congressmen. In the end though, it will come back down to the facts that landed Siegelman where he is today. Whether he was targeted for political reasons or not – and I don’t like it one bit if he was – he was still found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt on multiple counts by a jury of his peers. Karl Rove wasn’t responsible for that unpleasant reality.
At least there was a decent piece on “colony collapse disorder” that is affecting bee populations later in the show to make it a bit more worthwhile.
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February 24th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
thanks for not talking about how, when, the who and why the GOP and the Bush Admin held all of those private meetings on the public dime as to how the GOP was planning on how they were going to terminate Democrats and used the the office of the Bush Admin (that includes the FBI and Dept of Justice to do the dirty work) and fired those Bush Admin folks that did not tow the party line
February 24th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Please click below to get a complete list of the inaccuracies from the report. Unfortunately, jill simpson was so sensational that CBS failed to act as journalists.
http://www.algop.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=7169
February 25th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Is this the same same list that reports the White House missing emails with regards to the missing time between the White House and key GOP figures with regards to the office of the attorney general, political enemies, and elections. tell just when will Rove, Miers and key White House people give sworn testimony?
February 25th, 2008 at 12:40 am
The Alabama GOP defense is like that of a rapist who says, “Are you going to believe me or the sperm you’ll find in that 8 year old girl…if she is big enough to ask for it she got what she wanted!?”
February 25th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Check out this response from one of the Lefties - the one who forewarned about “swift-boat” attacks:
The blackout mainly omitted the portion of the broadcast where Jill Simpson was interviewed. Quite honestly the free-Don crowd has a much stronger case without her so the blackout probably did them a favor! In any event, WHNT apologized on their website and rebroadcast the show later in the evening. That’s probably just how it would have worked in the Soviet Union.
February 25th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Jack, they didn’t mention any such meetings during the segment.
February 25th, 2008 at 7:44 am
The segment ended up running later Sunday evening? During the evening news?
February 25th, 2008 at 8:25 am
Brian, above you mention that Simpson seems to be, I dunno, elaborating on her affidavit in a disingenuous fashion. Have you read her much longer Congressional testimony?
There’s a copy of the released transcript here:
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/jillsimpsoninterviewwithexhibits.pdf
It runs a 140 pages or so with various elaborations and explanations of her brief affidavit. For reasons that are unclear to me, some parts of her testimony are not included but she does mention Rove at length. I fail to see how the released parts of the much longer testimony conflict with her shorter affidavit and/or her comments on 60 Minutes. (Perhaps some lawyer here can suggest what’s going on with the off-the-record testimony. Perhaps it involves another on-going investigation? Also, IIRC, there are some references to additional documentation that is not included in the testimony.)
Did Rob Riley ever file an affidavit with the Judiciary Committee? Didn’t he say, toward the end of last year, that he was working on an affidavit that addressed the Simpson testimony? Come to think of it, has anyone involved testified that her account is wrong? (Yes, yes, some of the players have claimed she’s lying in the press, and I think there was at least one press release from one of the U.S. attorney’s office regarding Simpson’s affidavit, but has anyone submitted an affidavit or testified in Congress or a courtroom with any details of how/why Simpson is wrong.)
February 25th, 2008 at 8:39 am
She happened to find out, she claims, that an unnamed Jackson County attorney who she says is a Democrat was placing Riley signs in the area of a KKK rally.
Jackson CO. Democrat lawyer. That narrows it down to all but maybe 2.
February 25th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Wait. Sorry to keep posting but my bad, Rob Riley did produce an affidavit, presumably filed with Judiciary Committee. There a copy here:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/riley-affidavit/
At a glance, it addresses some points and has some non-denial denials of other important points, some “I do not believe”s and “I do not remember”s. It’s not a very strong document but, again, he did officially contradict (parts of) Simpson’s account.
February 25th, 2008 at 10:55 am
“60 Minutes Done A Great Job”
Bush’s elete group of corrupt left wing GOP’ers are scared to death that Don Siegelman may be on the streets before the election. Slick Bob so nervous that he is combing his hair and spraying his mouth and under arms every Five minutes hoping that John McCain will name him as his running mate. A Democratic president will probally appoint new U.S. Attorneys in Alabama. Riley along with most of the top Al. GOP operatives could get Federal charges filed against them for taking millions of dollars from Michael Scanlon and Jack Abramoff. The money was used to defeat Siegelman’s Education Lottery and to run Riley’s election campaigns.
February 25th, 2008 at 11:22 am
…GOP operatives could get Federal charges filed against them for taking millions of dollars from Michael Scanlon and Jack Abramoff…
Hmmm, aren’t we approaching various statute of limitations issues with the Abramoff/Scanlon cases? Though, yeah, it’s an interesting point. Assuming the AL GOP sticks to it’s Siegelman logic, it’s long past time to trackdown those Abramoff/Scanlon, um, bribes. (Argh. What a mess. Remind me again how half the AL avoided indictment in the Abramoff case….)
February 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
“Quite honestly the free-Don crowd has a much stronger case without her”
I agree. So why is your entire article above a refutation of Simpson’s testimony and credibility. No mention of Fuller’s unusually harsh actions in sentencing?
February 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Interesting that this post completely dismisses the segment after doing nothing more than attacking Simpson’s credibility. Brian doesn’t even mention that insignificant Bailey situation. Never mind that the entire prosecution revolved around that criminal’s testimony, testimony that was coached by the prosecution and illegally withheld from defense counsel. Is Bailey lying now, or was he lying then? Or both?
February 25th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
I only have a couple of minutes, so here goes:
#2 - I’ll try to read the 140 page transcript in my free time. But what’s free time, I don’t seem to remember?
T. Andress - You despise what you assert is the political prosecution (and conviction) of Don Siegelman because it was political. You then lust for the day when a Democrat can use the US Attorneys for his (or her) own political prosecutions. Make up your mind.
Jack - I said the case was stronger without Simpson, not strong. Fuller sent them to prison one year after the verdict was turned in. I think that is ample time for them to roam the streets as convicted felons.
Bovinekid - (clever name BTW, I like it) If it is proven that the prosecution withheld exculpatory evidence from the defense then I’ll be the first in line to demand a retrial. The defense used to say Bailey was a liar, but now that he is saying what they want to hear he is a saint. Was he lying then? Is he lying now? Has he ever told the truth? Between him and Simpson they have cobbled together quite a crew.
February 26th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Brian, you’ve had some interesting responses to our concerns about the Siegelman case, and have brought up points of merit that I hadn’t heard before. I know you’re busy, but I’d love to hear your response to some of Scott Horton’s (http://harpers.org/subjects/NoComment) latest five bullet points in the “B’ham News Dispenses More Koolaid” article.
Also, does anyone know how the original court reporter died? There have been some interesting questions floating around….
February 26th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
This is quite amusing- the news director at WHNT has just written a lengthy blog piece describing what happened to the 60 minutes broadcast Sunday. It is a wordy ode to free speech and purportedly a rebuttal to all the conspiracy theories, except for one problem: She never explained what exactly happened. It was a “technical failure” of a “piece of equipment” that allows them to recieve feeds from CBS. Why take the time to write such a long explanation without actually providing a concrete explanation? Once again, much sound and fury signifying nothing- I think that’s paraphrased.
February 26th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Jack, what do you expect her to say? “Our capacitor inverter was inadvertently melted when the latent heat caused a nearby rat turd to undergo an intense exothermic reaction, releasing approximately 5.6981 Joules of energy. Our staff worked feverishly to replace it with a model 457 Bluefield inverter.” She’s the news director. She probably stays as far from the technical weeds as possible.
The station re-aired the segment twice! Would they really do that if they were trying to prevent local residents from seeing the piece? Every single person who claims that some equity fund manager who is a principle shareholder in a firm that owns a bazillion companies personally directed WHNT to shut down the broadcast sounds crazy. There is just no other, more delicate way to say it.
And I would LOVE it if I thought they shut down the broadcast for political reasons – it would be great material to blog about. But in the modern internet era they would have to know that any eager viewers could simply watch it on the internet (like I did). They would stand to lose advertising revenue, but wouldn’t accomplish their objective of censoring the piece. It just makes no sense at all.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
YES!!! That’s what I want to hear!! I want them to lock in a reason, if only to shut people like me up! That would be much better than:
“Station management worked quickly to find an appropriate resolution to this technical debacle”
That tells me NOTHING.
February 26th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
How about this Jack, from the website you linked earlier:
“You received poor information from your unnamed CBS source who indicated WHNT in Huntsville did not have any CBS related problems in receiving the 60 Minutes feed on Sunday, 2/24/08. In fact one of our CBS receivers was in a documented fault 6:00 PM and the other was not sending out video. The Chief Engineer’s email trailing the events of last evening is below.
We do not censor programming. We did not censor 60 Minutes. We experienced a failure of one of our CBS receivers. I trust you will reference this on your talk show circuit today and make the necessary corrections to your website.
WHNT Report, Failure going into 60 Minutes on 2/24/08 at 6PM CT
At 7:03pm I received a call from Tracy Garrett at the DOC, Tracy said that we lost CBS when we went to 60 Minutes at 6:00pm. Tracy said he had talked to the station and they were trying to find out what was going on. I was about 10 blocks from the station at the time of the call and proceeded to the station as quickly as possible. When I arrived at the station I switched to CBS IRD 4 at the station placing CBS 60 Minutes back on air at 6:12:17. At that point I started investigating the problem. I called CBS control to see if they could determine what happened to cause the failure from our IRD’s at the transmitter site. CBS looked at the CBS rack and said that IRD one looked normal but there was a problem with IRD three, it appeared to be off channel with an alarm. At that point I sent Richard Hunter the assistant Chief engineer to the transmitter to determine what was going with the CBS signal from the receive site at the transmitter.
When Richard arrived he started trouble shooting the problem and determined that what CBS was saying was correct. When Richard looked at the output from IRD 1 there was no video and IRD three had an alarm because it was looking at the wrong channel. When Richard power cycled IRD one at 6:18:12Pm all IRD’s in the rack blinked and video returned from IRD one.”
There is your explanation. I am sure this will not be close to enough for you. Technical glitches happen, sometimes at the worst possible time. I am still waiting for someone to tell me that he is not guilty of these crimes, instead all we here is “this was not fair.”
February 27th, 2008 at 8:39 am
So far, looks like there was no “failure”. Someone switched the channel on the local IRD(integrated reciever decoder). How the hell does that happen by accident?
February 27th, 2008 at 9:16 am
No, that is not what it says. It says there was a failure. Sometimes the recievers lock up. It happened at WVNN during election coverage. Ask anyone that works in radio and television. THAT HAPPENS.
Seriously people, if this was a conspiracy it was a pretty stupid one.
February 27th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Here’s a comment from a TV station manager to the News Directors blog at WHNT:
“What happened to the backup??? Anyone who knows anything at all about running a station knows that redundancy is tantamount to staying on the air and collecting revenue. If your master control was running an active backup, whether sattelite, tape or both, the quickest path to signal restoration would be to switch to the backup. If my master control operators failed to run a backup, they would find themselves in the unemployment line pronto.
As far as to why an engineer would have to go to the transmitter site to restore a satellite feed to the studio, well, I’m scratching my head over that one. It doesn’t make any sense at all.”
This level of incompetence is almost ridiculous- the amount of time it took to reboot the 2 of 4 failed recievers. Where were the master control operators? Why was’nt the feed switched to the backup recievers from master control? Come on.
As for the conspiracy, this blackout seems to have created more outrage than the story itself, so where does that leave us?
February 27th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Actually, my last comment about switching the feed from master control is answered in the explanation from WHNT. But why wasn’t it done immediately? Why did they have to wait the 12 minutes for the Chief engineer to make his way to op control, when it was clearly staffed?
February 27th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
So when you can’t find conspiracy you find incompetence and call it conspiracy? The engineer was not on site.
February 27th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
I’m not looking for conspiracy, I’m just looking for answers.
This is a fantastic coincidence, and I’d just like to know why it happened. Despite requesting answers from the News director and news producer, I still haven’t heard a satisfactory explanation.
I’d really like to know why no one at the station switched to the backup feed immediately when this happened. Apparently there was a crawl across the bottom of the screen, so whoever punched that in could easily have punched up one of the backup recievers.
February 27th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
What does that mean? They answered, you just don’t like it.
You are now worrying about their off-air pricedures?
Do you think this was a tactical move jack?
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